Blackpowderwarrior
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What are these guys proofed at?
They are serious tanks
They are serious tanks
It's not the cylinder you should be worried about. The barrels are not proofed for smokeless loads. There's your weak link.Again, strongly suggest contacting Kirst. They know their metallurgy and heat treatment (if any) and the limitations of their product.
Let us know if Kirst says their cylinders are proof tested at 30% over like a complete gun.
Mike,So how would you do that? In one with a loose arbor, with a loose wedge . . . wedge in with thumb pressure, all of the above . . . they have no idea what Billy Bob's gonna put the cylinder in. So, why would they EVER say what the proof is ???
It's an insane question ( no offense o.p.) but it's just asking for trouble.
I say make your own cylinder and tell everybody what the numbers are . . .
Mike
I know the Italians send the bp guns to the proofing house and shoot at least 1 cylinderEven in Europe under proof law and CIP, there seems no requirement to proof test parts. Buy a kit gun and the barrel and cylinder are unmarked. So I doubt Kirst does, either.
Mike,
Just ponderings of mine . Hel I wonder the same thing about the black powder cylinders. I figured a man such as yourself with experience in the 45 ACP opentop kirst platform would bring something to the table Numbers wise.
Guys this is just pondering not me loading up a magnum in a opentop
I know the Italians send the bp guns to the proofing house and shoot at least 1 cylinder
Cylinder first because it has to contain the charge. Highest pressure is in the cylinder. After the cylinder, a lot of gas/pressure escapes from the barrel & cylinder gap.It's not the cylinder you should be worried about. The barrels are not proofed for smokeless loads. There's your weak link.
Considering the gun is not an open top Colt....Cylinder first because it has to contain the charge. Highest pressure is in the cylinder. After the cylinder, a lot of gas/pressure escapes from the barrel & cylinder gap.
Barrels #2 b/c of the pressure and the flying lead.
Frame has to hold it everything together but if it's cracked, it becomes a stagnant display or training tool. BTW, most modern revolvers that fail involve blowing of the cylinder and topstrap first.
Who is “proofing” these cylinders?… So even with a Kirst or Howell cylinder proofed for smokeless loads, …
Kirst and Howell.Who is “proofing” these cylinders?
Kevin
Mike thanks for the explanation.I get it but you're not the only one seeing this ! No telling what someone might do if you gave them a number . . . So, I'd rather the thread be removed. I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to give reloading recipes out for obvious reasons and likewise, why would anyone throw out a max number so someone else could get hurt / killed?!!
There's no need!! I had asked for a moderator to remove it this morning but they thought different I guess.
No offense Blackpowderwarrior but that info is not needed to shoot these cylinders.
My honest opinion.
Mike
Good on you Blackpowderwarrior!!!Mike thanks for the explanation.
What you have on me is wisdom, I'm still a young buck and appreciate the experience and explanation
Mods please remove this thread as it serves no purpose
Highest pressure is in the cylinder.