Night Pigeon T-Sauce Project

[Mark_Mark]

In Honor of a 1977 Trans Am with the Flaming Chicken.

I present to you. The Night Pigeon Project. Take a $299 T-Sauce (Tisas SDS) that was hand Demel by yours truly. Put Night Hawk parts in it and see if it runs better.

back story: I bought a used Night Hawk T3 for a cheap prices. It came with like 9 NH mags and all function perfectly. It also came with a gut load of parts. I know the old owners reputation for the best of the best, and he had NH do lot of work to it. Well, they left the old parts and I don’t like to waste.

Control will be a unfired untouch WW1 A1 Service Pistol! so we can see if I did better.

ammo will be the same as the 1911 shot out for a reference

200gn Speer Coated SWC
WST 5.0gn - 4.8gn - 4.6gn
1.195 to 1.200
7 yards, shot at an angle

I’ll also load some FMJRN 230gn with 4.7gn of WST for a moderate speed of 800fps

Wish Me Luck! I’ll do the part swap at 4am

 

[nettlle]

Looks like a Silk Purse in the making for sure

 

[nettlle]

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

 

[Mark_Mark]

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

I’m excited!

 

[Mark_Mark]

Got it done early:

Only thing that fit , was the Trigger, extractor, and safety.

So here it is!

 

[tarosean]

Only thing that fit , was the Trigger, extractor, and safety.

You really need to test that safety. Just because it drops in doesnt mean the engagement surfaces will be correct.

 

[Mark_Mark]

You really need to test that safety. Just because it drops in doesnt mean the engagement surfaces will be correct.

I’ll look it up, but it so far works good

 

[Mark_Mark]

Test Ammo is LOADED! if work is not busy…

Night Pigeon range Report time!

 

[nofendertom]

Only thing that fit , was the Trigger, extractor, and safety.

So, the springs didn't fit ?

 

[Mark_Mark]

Test Ammo is LOADED! if work is not busy…

Night Pigeon range Report time

So, the springs didn't fit ?

no. only the safety, trigger, and extractor

springs were smaller or larger or didn’t match

 

[Mark_Mark]

So, the springs didn't fit ?

I’ll probably get a spring kit to mes around with, but it looks really NICE now with the extended safety & longer trigger. Feels good

 

[CapnMac]

Ok, you are going to need either these:

or these

Or maybe these:

Just sayin'

 

[Mark_Mark]

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Ok, you are going to need either these:

or these

Or maybe these:

Just sayin'

Those Are Pretty!!!!

 

[Mark_Mark]

Back from the Range with the Night Pigeon!!!

Great results… but ( wait till the end in about 10 minutes)

Yes!!! adding a bunch of random Night Hawk made the gun shoot better! here are the results

Just Plain Black T-Sauce (no NH parts)


Night Pigeon (added NightHawk parts)
Improved the groupings!!! WIN Win Win

 

[Mark_Mark]

Here the big BUT!!!

Same Load

Gun is a Tisas SDS green Service A1, Same gun as the T-Sauce, just never fired or dremel

From the factory gun!

 

[nofendertom]

Now let us see how the Night Hawk compares to these three.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Now let us see how the Night Hawk compares to these three.

the real real Night Hawk, same distance. Lead Round Nose with 5.1 HP38

 

[nofendertom]

I was thinking more along the lines of shooting the same ammo as the Night Pigeon.

 

[Mark_Mark]

ohhh ok

 

[Mark_Mark]

So… Final Conclusion of the Project.

The Factory Tiasa SDS, unmodified, As Is, shot as good or better than messing with the gun.

Note: to bubba Gun Smith with a Deluxe Dremel that their person bought for them. It don’t make it better…

But… What if I put those NH parts in the factory gun???? Night Fish project??? maybe!!

 

[vanfunk]

I’m having so much fun reading this thread, I just made myself a mimosa to enhance the experience. I am living vicariously through Mark Mark right now.

 

[trackskippy]

So… Final Conclusion of the Project.

The Factory Tiasa SDS, unmodified, As Is, shot as good or better than messing with the gun.

Note: to bubba Gun Smith with a Deluxe Dremel that their person bought for them. It don’t make it better…

But… What if I put those NH parts in the factory gun???? Night Fish project??? maybe!!

My Tisas's shoot great, when they shoot. The issue with the three I have is, they just don't shoot reliably as they come (and to be fair, like a lot of 1911's) and do need help to get them to do so. Or at least mine (just basic guns) have.

I think with them, as with most 1911's, if you address a few basic things, the 45 versions will be decent working guns. Im not sold on their 9mm versions though. Id like to see how they would do if they switch the ramped barrels back to the original design.

 

[sevt_chevelle]

So… Final Conclusion of the Project.

The Factory Tiasa SDS, unmodified, As Is, shot as good or better than messing with the gun.

Note: to bubba Gun Smith with a Deluxe Dremel that their person bought for them. It don’t make it better…

But… What if I put those NH parts in the factory gun???? Night Fish project??? maybe!!

Am gonna be that guy....
But, how does an extractor, thumb safety and a few springs make the gun more accurate?

 

[Mark_Mark]

Am gonna be that guy....
But, how does an extractor, thumb safety and a few springs make the gun more accurate?

make you think it’s more accurate, so then you shoot more accurate

 

[Howland937]

Am gonna be that guy....
But, how does an extractor, thumb safety and a few springs make the gun more accurate?

It was the trigger that put it over the hump.