whats this rifle?

[Iansstud]

Now, look at the mag catch. That's ONLY present on the 1889.

It does have the mag catch like the pic

 

[3pairs12]

I don't know it doesn't look like the K31 bolt to my untrained eye. I am with PTK on this.
Now that I can see the new pics I am difinitely with PTK

 

[Iansstud]

THANK YOU! Finally someone else knows that it's not a K31 even though it's Swiss and straight pull - there are MANY variations on the Schmidt-Rubin system, and you need to know the differences to be safe.


Oh, LOOK, it's an 1889, not a K31. Gee, I was right.

ok,... so it is just called a "sporterized schmidt-Rubin 1889"?

 

[Funderb]

well, some one seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning....

 

[PTK]

ok,... so it is just called a "sporterized schmidt-Rubin 1889"?

Yes, I have one in my "for sale" thread, here's the pic.

It's an 1889 Schmidt-Rubin that's been sporterized. Worth between $200-$400, depending on overall condition and who wants it, closer to $200 usually. The ONLY ammo that's safe to shoot is handloads.

well, some one seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning....

Oh, sorry if I get worked up over everyone giving someone DANGEROUS information that could literally KILL someone! I'll let you go about your business - I bet you could fire .44mag out of that .45LC, too.....

 

[Duke of Doubt]

Actually, the Schmidt-Rubin 1889 was the rifle I first pointed him to, if you check the link I posted. His 1950 manufacture date made me think K31 instead. Where is that 1950 date, by the way, Iansstud? I don't see it anywhere in your pictures.

I wouldn't give over $75 for it.

 

[Funderb]

Oh, sorry if I get worked up over everyone giving someone DANGEROUS information that could literally KILL someone! I'll let you go about your business - I bet you could fire .44mag out of that .45LC, too.....

nonsense, i shoot 30-06 out of my mosin nagant all the time. Its just hard .... cramming..... them ...... in .... there..... rrrg...

 

[Iansstud]

Actually, the Schmidt-Rubin 1889 was the rifle I first pointed him to, if you check the link I posted. His 1950 manufacture date made me think K31 instead. Where is that 1950 date, by the way, Iansstud? I don't see it anywhere in your pictures.

I just googled schmidt rubin serial number and this came up
http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/schmidt_rubin.html
I looked at my S/N and found it about 7/8 of the way down the page under "Model 1931 Carbines (Karabiner)"

could be older then that? I dont know, I just calls'em like I seez'em

do I need a FFL to ship to, or not, I have seen 2 rifles on GB that say you dont...

 

[PTK]

It's an 1889, no, no FFL to ship it. Anything made before 1899 (1898 or earlier) is legally (Federally) an antique and thus "non-gun"

 

[Sam1911]

I looked at the pics again and there is no doubt. I missed the locking lugs and mag catch before. Not a K-31. It's an 1889.

Should be antique enough not to need the FFL to ship.

-Sam

 

[PTK]

Yes, it is indeed an 1889. And that's why people need to be careful before posting information that could be dangerous!

 

[Iansstud]

I wouldn't give over $75 for it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=120750847
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=120320343

 

[Duke of Doubt]

I ain't those two.

What did P.T. Barnum say?

 

[Iansstud]

I see said the blind man

 

[Funderb]

well, if you want to collect a curio... but it is apparently worthless as a shooter. I wouldn't take it if it were given to me.

PTK says it's unsafe, and he's generally correct, I've seen.

 

[PTK]

Duke of Doubt

I wouldn't give over $10 for your entire collection, doesn't mean that's all it's worth.

Iansstud

Yes, that page seems to be incorrect.

PTK says it's unsafe, and he's generally correct, I've seen.

Kind words, thank you.

 

[Iansstud]

Hey,

Big thanks to everyone!!! -Ian

 

[PTK]

Iansstud

Not a problem, just be SURE to tell any buyer/shooter that uses this rifle that modern ammo is far overpressure.

 

[Ian]

It's an 1889, no, no FFL to ship it. Anything made before 1899 (1898 or earlier) is legally (Federally) an antique and thus "non-gun"

FYI for other folks reading this thread, the date for not needing an FFL is based on the specific gun in question, not the general model. In this case, all of the Schmidt Rubin 1889s were made by 1897, so they all qualify as antiques. But other rifles, notably the Mosin Nagant M91/30s, were made both before and after 1899. So in those cases, only the individual guns dated 1898 or earlier qualify.

 

[PTK]

Ian is correct - it is the SPECIFIC manufacture date of each gun in question, not the model number.

 

[Iansstud]

I think i will put it up for sale in the forum 1st then try GB, I'd like to get $200 for it, I dont know if that is way out of line, but if I was in the market, I would pay $200 for a rifle that can shoot this good.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

In the case of the Mosin, BTW, the date ATF uses is the date on the receiver (under the tang), and NOT the date on the barrel, which you can see plain as day and which the Russians considered the gun date. This makes for some amusing possibiities, as you can imagine.