Man killed attempting to stop a carjacking

[Styx]

My understanding is that he intervened in a carjacking of a third party in another vehicle before the criminal stole the truck that he was killed with.

In any case, the truck he defended with lethal force and eventually with his own life wasn't his property and was owned by a third party.

It really is a just-stay-the-hell-out-of-it kind of situation.

The truck he was killed with was his truck. The criminal stole his truck, and he was attempting to stop the criminal from taking his property.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Any update on the suspect?

Last I read, he crashed the truck while pursued by the police and was arrested.

 

[Kleanbore]

The truck he was killed with was his truck. The criminal stole his truck, and he was attempting to stop the criminal from taking his property.

City property

 

[Styx]

City property

In that case, I would have let him take the work truck. It was more understandable when I thought it was his truck and livelihood. Plus, I doubt that he was allowed to carry while working for the city. Even more of a reason to not pull his gun.

 

[The Night Rider]

In that case, I would have let him take the work truck. It was more understandable when I thought it was his truck and livelihood. Plus, I doubt that he was allowed to carry while working for the city. Even more of a reason to not pull his gun.

Employees of The City of Colorado Springs are allowed by Mayoral Decree to carry at work provided they have a valid CHP.

 

[Kleanbore]

It was more understandable when I thought it was his truck and livelihood.

Using deadly force to prevent a target would be an effective way to lose one's truck and livelihood.

 

[Styx]

Using deadly force to prevent a target would be an effective way to lose one's truck and livelihood.

Well I agree to an extent; it depends on the state and relative circumstances.

 

[Styx]

Employees of The City of Colorado Springs are allowed by Mayoral Decree to carry at work provided they have a valid CHP.

That's good to know. I never would have thought.

 

[Kleanbore]

Well I agree to an extent; it depends on the state and relative circumstances.

Yeah, Texas at night no other way

 

[starnbar]

For those "not sure" here, watch the video. It was a great example of what to NOT EVER do. While I would care less if the scum had died instead, that is not what happened here. Sadly in many jurisdictions if you shoot some scum to keep them from stealing you are going to need lawyers after. Also what many who carry never seem to "get". If you start touching off rounds you are going to be held responsible for every round that leaves your gun. What you "meant to do" will not matter. I don't like the way things are now but, I also like NOT ending up ruining my life trying to stop a theft. Everyone has to make the personal choice if this happens around them.

So what is the difference? You are STILL LIABLE for every round whether the shoot is good or not and granny sitting in her rocker across the street, now has another hole in her head even with a good shoot you will own that homicide. Guess what your life is still ruined.

 

[wayneinFL]

In that case, I would have let him take the work truck. It was more understandable when I thought it was his truck and livelihood. Plus, I doubt that he was allowed to carry while working for the city. Even more of a reason to not pull his gun.

Yeah, if anything he risked his livelihood (his family's livelihood) pulling a gun and shooting at someone to prevent the theft of the NCDOT truck that was issued to him. It's not a stretch to think the state would have fired him for that.

And if this was about his livelihood, where is his livelihood now? Gone and he isn't getting another one.

20 years from now his kids will be out in the world without their dad seeing them learn to shave, go to prom, graduate, move out, get married, buy a house. And that truck that seemed so important at the time will be rusted away in a junkyard.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

I appears to me the gun was loaded with blanks, for whatever reason.

The deceased was way too nonchalant after the carjacker stole the truck. Not the kind of behavior I'd expect from somebody that just shot at somebody with live ammo.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I appears to me the gun was loaded with blanks, for whatever reason.

The deceased was way too nonchalant after the carjacker stole the truck. Not the kind of behavior I'd expect from somebody that just shot at somebody with live ammo.

That is probably because he didn't shoot anybody with live ammo. He used live ammo. He just missed.

The deceased was pretty chill before he started shooting as well.