AlexanderA
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The Turkish Tisas company has decided to replicate the WW2 M1911A1 pistol, specifically the one made by Remington-Rand. Did they succeed in this? Read on and you decide.
(This has been a desire for collectors for some time, since the price of originals in good condition has exceeded $2,000. A Tisas can be had for less than a quarter of that.)
In this thread, we will compare my recently acquired Tisas M1911A1 ASF ("Armed Services Family") to my original mid-WW2 excellent-condition Remington-Rand.
Overall Impression
In the following picture, we see the Tisas, as arrived out of the box (upper gun), alongside the Remington-Rand (lower gun).
It really is a remarkable resemblance. Indeed, the degree of finish (lack of machining marks) is much better than the originals!
It's been said that the finish on the Tisas is manganese phosphate (dark) whereas the finish on the originals is zinc phosphate (gray). (These are both types of Parkerizing.) However, placed side by side, I don't see much discernible difference.
Other people have remarked that the grip safety has been reconfigured so that it pinches the hand. Again, I don't see much difference in the grip safeties.
The Markings
Here are the Tisas markings on the right side of the frame:
As compared to the Remington-Rand markings:
Note that the serial number has been moved to the left side of the frame:
Note also that the Remington-Rand manufacturer's information was on the slide. The Tisas has no slide markings whatsoever.
Needless to say there is no "FJA" inspector's mark or crossed cannon Ordnance logo on the Tisas.
Finally, the country of origin has been placed discreetly on the bottom of the dust cover:
To be continued....
(This has been a desire for collectors for some time, since the price of originals in good condition has exceeded $2,000. A Tisas can be had for less than a quarter of that.)
In this thread, we will compare my recently acquired Tisas M1911A1 ASF ("Armed Services Family") to my original mid-WW2 excellent-condition Remington-Rand.
Overall Impression
In the following picture, we see the Tisas, as arrived out of the box (upper gun), alongside the Remington-Rand (lower gun).
![IMG_1289a.jpg IMG_1289a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148509-7171e9975c6624605607cd1541f13222.jpg)
It really is a remarkable resemblance. Indeed, the degree of finish (lack of machining marks) is much better than the originals!
It's been said that the finish on the Tisas is manganese phosphate (dark) whereas the finish on the originals is zinc phosphate (gray). (These are both types of Parkerizing.) However, placed side by side, I don't see much discernible difference.
Other people have remarked that the grip safety has been reconfigured so that it pinches the hand. Again, I don't see much difference in the grip safeties.
The Markings
Here are the Tisas markings on the right side of the frame:
![DSC_0214a.jpg DSC_0214a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148510-50617a30cde5113ba699fa242f6b0744.jpg)
As compared to the Remington-Rand markings:
![DSC_0207a.jpg DSC_0207a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148511-eef8f678c4c0660fdb434ccdd03789fe.jpg)
Note that the serial number has been moved to the left side of the frame:
![DSC_0216a.jpg DSC_0216a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148512-c79544b4f9453e40d785140aa3560edd.jpg)
Note also that the Remington-Rand manufacturer's information was on the slide. The Tisas has no slide markings whatsoever.
![DSC_0209a.jpg DSC_0209a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148514-efab0cfca790c0afed6ff326bac10d89.jpg)
Needless to say there is no "FJA" inspector's mark or crossed cannon Ordnance logo on the Tisas.
Finally, the country of origin has been placed discreetly on the bottom of the dust cover:
![DSC_0218a.jpg DSC_0218a.jpg](https://www.thehighroad.org/data/attachments/1148/1148515-de565012f5b0254045b3bcfedc30eb6a.jpg)
To be continued....
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